disk images on server

[Tom Sparks tom_a_sparks-/[e-mail] [chameleon_64]]

I am looking at buying a group of chameleons
I would like to the chameleons to download the disk image from my disk image server
Can that be done?


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[Tobias [e-mail] [chameleon_64]]

Post by Tom Sparks tom_a_sparks-/***@public.gmane.org [chameleon_64]
I am looking at buying a group of chameleons
I would like to the chameleons to download the disk image from my disk image
server Can that be done?

please elaborate what exactly you are trying to do... the chameleon firmware
itself has no builtin features like that, but there are a bunch of programs
that maybe can be used to do what you want (see http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/RR-Net#Networking_software_supporting_RR-Net )

[Tom Sparks tom_a_sparks-/[e-mail] [chameleon_64]]

Post by Tobias tobias-S0d+***@public.gmane.org [chameleon_64]

Post by Tom Sparks tom_a_sparks-/***@public.gmane.org [chameleon_64]
I am looking at buying a group of chameleons
I would like to the chameleons to download the disk image from my disk image
server Can that be done?

please elaborate what exactly you are trying to do... the chameleon firmware
itself has no builtin features like that, but there are a bunch of programs
that maybe can be used to do what you want (see http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/RR-Net#Networking_software_supporting_RR-Net )

the netboot65 [1] seams the closet to what I want, but it has a group of issues:
* non standard TFTP client/server
* limited to listing 128 file / folders
* server written in ruby
* needs extra hardware (RP-net)


[1] http://netboot65.sourceforge.net/
tom sparks

Post by Tobias tobias-S0d+***@public.gmane.org [chameleon_64]
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http://www.icomp.de http://wiki.icomp.de

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[[e-mail] [chameleon_64]]

hi tom pls take a look at http://www.metalvotze.de/content/forschung.php 64net/2. should work on a chameleon

[Tom Sparks tom_a_sparks-/[e-mail] [chameleon_64]]

Post by nils.andreas-***@public.gmane.org [chameleon_64]
hi tom

pls take a look at http://www.metalvotze.de/content/forschung.php 64net/2. should work on a chameleon
URL is damaged :(



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[[e-mail] [chameleon_64]]

http://sourceforge.net/projects/c64net/ this link better?

[Tom Sparks tom_a_sparks-/[e-mail] [chameleon_64]]

Post by nils.andreas-***@public.gmane.org [chameleon_64]
http://sourceforge.net/projects/c64net/ this link better?

I store the disk images following the TOSEC Naming Convention
on the chameleon: I would like to a menu list all the disk images


PS: based on the price I got from Individual Computers' Shop it well cost appox AUD$500.00 for 1 chameleon and rr-net, witch has killed using chameleons for this project :(
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[fierman [e-mail] [chameleon_64]]

You don't need the chameleon per-se for the networking software by the way.
The rr-net (mk.3) works standalone as well :)

Post by Tom Sparks tom_a_sparks-/***@public.gmane.org [chameleon_64]

Post by nils.andreas-***@public.gmane.org [chameleon_64]
http://sourceforge.net/projects/c64net/ this link better?

I store the disk images following the TOSEC Naming Convention
on the chameleon: I would like to a menu list all the disk images
PS: based on the price I got from Individual Computers' Shop it well cost
appox AUD$500.00 for 1 chameleon and rr-net, witch has killed using
chameleons for this project :(
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[Jens Schoenfeld [e-mail] [chameleon_64]]

Post by Tom Sparks tom_a_sparks-/***@public.gmane.org [chameleon_64]
PS: based on the price I got from Individual Computers' Shop it well
cost appox AUD$500.00 for 1 chameleon and rr-net, witch has killed using
chameleons for this project :(

Note that if you're from Australia, you don't need to pay the 19% VAT
that applies to European countries. What you see in the shop is prices
*including* VAT, which is a requirement according to European law: I'm
not allowed to advertise prices without VAT to European customers.

If you register on the site with your home address, you will see prices
without VAT after logging in.

ciao,

[Tom Sparks tom_a_sparks-/[e-mail] [chameleon_64]]

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Post by Jens Schoenfeld jens-S0d+***@public.gmane.org [chameleon_64]

Post by Tom Sparks tom_a_sparks-/***@public.gmane.org [chameleon_64]
PS: based on the price I got from Individual Computers' Shop it well
cost appox AUD$500.00 for 1 chameleon and rr-net, witch has killed using
chameleons for this project :(

Note that if you're from Australia, you don't need to pay the 19% VAT
that applies to European countries. What you see in the shop is prices
*including* VAT, which is a requirement according to European law: I'm
not allowed to advertise prices without VAT to European customers.
If you register on the site with your home address, you will see prices
without VAT after logging in.

done, 251.94 Euro = 356.60 Australian Dollar :(
I could get a group of raspberry pi model b+ (AU$48.00) for the same price :)

Post by Jens Schoenfeld jens-S0d+***@public.gmane.org [chameleon_64]
ciao,
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Jens Schönfeld

tom sparks



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[Jens Schoenfeld [e-mail] [chameleon_64]]

done, 251.94 Euro = 356.60 Australian Dollar :(
I could get a group of raspberry pi model b+ (AU$48.00) for the same price :)

Cool - I didn't know that the RPi can do cycle-exact C64 emulation,
connect to a C64 and to IEC devices. Also, I must have missed the IR eye
and the CDTV remote control. Oh and that menu system of the RPi, just
great! I must have missed that the RPi comes in a CNC-milled case, and
all those freezer and cartridge emulations that the RPi adds to the C64
- wow!

You get the idea: don't compare things that can't be compared. Just
because both can be considered "a computer" doesn't exactly mean that
you can compare them. RPi is a mass-produced device with about 35.000
units produced daily (at least during the first months of it's
existence). Chameleon is still a few-hundred-units device, and you still
need to pay all the development that went into it. Like I wrote a number
of times before: I'm losing money on each unit.

If you want to compare with VICE on RPi, you should also check who has
contributed to VICE these last few years. Many freezer emulations, test
programs and bug fixes were added by iComp staff.

ciao,

['Frank Buss' [e-mail] [chameleon_64]]

Post by Jens Schoenfeld jens-S0d+***@public.gmane.org [chameleon_64]
Cool - I didn't know that the RPi can do cycle-exact C64 emulation,
connect to a C64 and to IEC devices. Also, I must have missed the IR eye
and the CDTV remote control. Oh and that menu system of the RPi, just
great! I must have missed that the RPi comes in a CNC-milled case, and
all those freezer and cartridge emulations that the RPi adds to the C64
- wow!

There is the RetroPie project, which provides three dozen retro systems ( http://blog.petrockblock.com/retropie/ ), has a nice menu system and you can use USB gamepads and joysticks. I guess most people don't care about cycle-exact emulation (except people like me who have a Chameleon), if it runs at 100%, which is no problem with VICE on the Raspberry Pi, and if the latency is not too bad.



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[Tom Sparks tom_a_sparks-/[e-mail] [chameleon_64]]

Post by Jens Schoenfeld jens-S0d+***@public.gmane.org [chameleon_64]

done, 251.94 Euro = 356.60 Australian Dollar :(
I could get a group of raspberry pi model b+ (AU$48.00) for the same price :)

Cool - I didn't know that the RPi can do cycle-exact C64 emulation,
connect to a C64 and to IEC devices. Also, I must have missed the IR eye
and the CDTV remote control. Oh and that menu system of the RPi, just
great! I must have missed that the RPi comes in a CNC-milled case, and
all those freezer and cartridge emulations that the RPi adds to the C64
- wow!
You get the idea: don't compare things that can't be compared. Just
because both can be considered "a computer" doesn't exactly mean that
you can compare them. RPi is a mass-produced device with about 35.000
units produced daily (at least during the first months of it's
existence). Chameleon is still a few-hundred-units device, and you still
need to pay all the development that went into it. Like I wrote a number
of times before: I'm losing money on each unit.
If you want to compare with VICE on RPi, you should also check who has
contributed to VICE these last few years. Many freezer emulations, test
programs and bug fixes were added by iComp staff.

I am not trying to compare, they are for two different markets
I am looking at setting up a retro gaming lan party for teenages

PS: I personal would like to get chameleon

Post by Jens Schoenfeld jens-S0d+***@public.gmane.org [chameleon_64]
ciao,
--
Jens Schönfeld

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[[e-mail] [chameleon_64]]

By the way, the IComp store apparently doesn’t allow editing registered user data: "Usersettings", like address, etc. Please check.

[Tom Sparks tom_a_sparks-/[e-mail] [chameleon_64]]

By the way, the IComp store apparently doesn’t allow editing registered user data: "Usersettings", > like address, etc. Please check.

the usersetting dose not display anything



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[Jens Schoenfeld [e-mail] [chameleon_64]]

By the way, the IComp store apparently doesn’t allow editing

registered user data: "Usersettings", > like address, etc. Please check.
the usersetting dose not display anything

That part of the site is still "work in progress": eMail addresses
aren't checked properly yet (can't reply to hotmail/live.com/outlook.com
addresses, 'cause Microsoft separates the world by their own standards -
solutions welcome), ticket system shall be available to registered
users, and settings should also be editable. There's currently not even
a design that says "this button in this position", like we had for many
other parts of the site.

Bear with us - there's a lot under the hood that we need to fix first.
Like that nasty Mickysoft-eMail problem. They just block our eMail
server for no reason - we're not one of the huge eMail providers, so
they treat us like spammers.

ciao,
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Jens Schönfeld


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[fierman [e-mail] [chameleon_64]]

Yes, for networking support you need extra hardware, the chameleon does not
come with the rr-net per default. You will have to buy that as an extra
add-on (around 50 euro) Which is true for any solution where you want to
do network stuff really.


the netboot65 [1] seams the closet to what I want, but it has a group of

Post by Tom Sparks tom_a_sparks-/***@public.gmane.org [chameleon_64]
* needs extra hardware (RP-net)
[1] http://netboot65.sourceforge.net/
tom sparks

[Tobias [e-mail] [chameleon_64]]

Post by fierman fierman-***@public.gmane.org [chameleon_64]
Yes, for networking support you need extra hardware, the chameleon does not
come with the rr-net per default. You will have to buy that as an extra
add-on (around 50 euro) Which is true for any solution where you want to
do network stuff really.

<snip>
what about adding Ethernet over USB[1] to the firmware?

the USB port is a) device only and b) the core can not directly access it -
both makes connecting any usb devices to it impossible. and even if it could
be done, you'd still have to modify (or even rewrite) the existing software to
work with it. using a well established solution such as rr-net seems to be the
much better idea at this point :)

[Tom Sparks tom_a_sparks-/[e-mail] [chameleon_64]]

Yes, for networking support you need extra hardware, the chameleon does not come with the rr-net per default. You will have to buy that as an extra add-on (around 50 euro) Which is true for any solution where you want to do network stuff really.

<snip>
what about adding Ethernet over USB[1] to the firmware?

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_over_USB



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